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MUSIC ?!?!?

Postby onemanband » 27 Jun 2011, 18:04

Hi,

This is the "chill out" room, yes?..... so I have come here to vent my spleen over an issue that continues to bug me intensely!!
I have just been noodling away on my Avalon, whilst keeping one eye watching Wimbledon on the TV.
In the crowd was one "Dizzie Rascal", one of a long list of idiots responsible for that rapping or drum and bass (or whatever it's called) s***t.
Boris Becker, a man whose humour and opinion I usually respect, referred to this individual as "a man of huge stature in the music business"
I continue to get annoyed and wound up at this utter racket (no pun intended) being mentioned in the same sentence as music...........I have a really wide appreciation of music of all genres and surely, I can't be the only one who feels like this.
Anyways..................thank you, I feel much better for getting that off my chest!!! :lol:

Brian

PS.........anyone see B.B.King at Glastonbury....................pure class!!!
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Re: MUSIC ?!?!?

Postby boombox » 27 Jun 2011, 23:42

onemanband wrote:one of a long list of idiots responsible for that rapping or drum and bass (or whatever it's called) s***t


Phew, I thought I was alone! :) Strangely enough, I was having a discussion on this on Friday in work - two of my colleagues were extolling the virtues of the Black-Eyed Peas and Kanye West. I shudder just to think about it.

I have two major issues with current popular music. The first is what people call R'n'B. R'n'B means rhythm and blues, ie the Pretty Things, the Rolling Stones, the Yardbirds etc. It is not R Kelly, Janet Jackson, Mariah Carey, TLC, Boyz II Men, Lauryn Hill, Missy Elliott, Beyoncé, Alicia Keys, R. Kelly, Usher etc (Don't worry, I googled that list - proud to say none of that excrement abides in my music collection!) To misuse the term for such modern faceless, processed muzak is unforgiveable.

And as far as I'm concerned, when they gave the genre a name, they missed out the 'c' preceding 'rap'. 99% of the time it's monotonous and has no natural rhythm (along with that other misnomer 'dance music'). Lyrics are typically poor and there is no decent bassline nor guitar nor keyboard hook to drive it along and no vocal melody either - I don't count the occasional collaboration between two "greats" (ha!) where some screeching female attempts to sing to counteract the poorly articulated (c)rap. As for the sampling of real musicians' work eg Eminem nicking Aerosmith songs, aargh!! I'm all for artists doing cover versions for a bit of fun in a live set or as one-off singles - it shows respect. But to take a decent song and then put that (c)rap over it...

However, you will notice, I said 99%. There is always the odd exception: Michael Franti of Spearhead, who writes some great thought-provoking lyrics, occasionally heads into rap territory, but he actually varies his voice - ie he sings! The best analysis of rap, hip-hop etc though has to be this late 80s classic by the Rodgau Monotones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzlY1lBeDW8 For the non-German speakers, basically it's a p***take of the Beastie Boys (of whom, ironically, I can just about stomach the odd song) and how they got rich off nicking someone else's work which would have been too technical for them to write themselves. Just google the lyrics and hit the Google translate button.
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Re: MUSIC ?!?!?

Postby onemanband » 28 Jun 2011, 00:05

Phew, I thought I was alone! :) Strangely enough, I was having a discussion on this on Friday in work - two of my colleagues were extolling the virtues of the Black-Eyed Peas and Kanye West. I shudder just to think about it.

I have two major issues with current popular music. The first is what people call R'n'B. R'n'B means rhythm and blues, ie the Pretty Things, the Rolling Stones, the Yardbirds etc. It is not R Kelly, Janet Jackson, Mariah Carey, TLC, Boyz II Men, Lauryn Hill, Missy Elliott, Beyoncé, Alicia Keys, R. Kelly, Usher etc (Don't worry, I googled that list - proud to say none of that excrement abides in my music collection!) To misuse the term for such modern faceless, processed muzak is unforgiveable.


Absolutely right..........(in our opinion) :mrgreen:
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Re: MUSIC ?!?!?

Postby JB » 28 Jun 2011, 09:13

Same here but I have to say this rap song certainly gets my feet tapping ... :D

http://youtu.be/s-O6MahqCuw

Excellent TV series too !
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Re: MUSIC ?!?!?

Postby boombox » 28 Jun 2011, 11:46

JB wrote:Same here but I have to say this rap song certainly gets my feet tapping ... :D

http://youtu.be/s-O6MahqCuw

Excellent TV series too !


Don't know the series at all, but that does nothing for me - I want to listen to the musicians, the dobro etc and it's ruined by the rap, which also kills the groove.

However, the Con O'Drisceoil is brilliant - just what I'd like to do to rappers and exponents of dance and house "music".
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Re: MUSIC ?!?!?

Postby onemanband » 30 Jun 2011, 22:35

Hi all,

I have been watching the responses and thanks for your input, whatever you feel on the subject.
I had to get out of my system; I just get wound up when rap/hip hop/drum & bass masquerades as music!! :wink:

Brian.
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