L32C - L330C whats the difference between them?

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L32C - L330C whats the difference between them?

Postby mutley2209 » 20 Mar 2009, 12:31

hi i've been looking at the L32C for a long time now but have stumbled onto the L330C Premier Series guitar, is this the premeir version of the L32C? or is it just similar in design? How much would one set me back and are there any available to buy from you guys at avalon in shop or would there be a waiting list involved? do you guys make the A32C anymore? One of my favourite guitar players Andy McKee has one and it sounds great live.

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Postby jenehoward » 21 Mar 2009, 00:18

L330 should be Walnut instead of RW, and with all the Premier series appointments.
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Postby mutley2209 » 21 Mar 2009, 17:53

does it sound better :?:
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Postby Ross A » 21 Mar 2009, 21:26

mutley2209 wrote:does it sound better :?:


It will sound different because Walnut gives a different sound to Rosewood. Better? That, my friend, is in the ear of the beholder. :)
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Postby rocksteady » 22 Mar 2009, 03:03

I believe there are a whole lot more Rosewoods out there than Walnut. I may be wrong, but I don't hear of walnut as much. Sometimes the more popular speaks for itself. Sometimes when I am having a hard time deciding to purchase one item or the other, I ask which one sell the best.
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Postby singlereed » 22 Mar 2009, 08:12

The guitars which set the original pattern for steel string acoustics (i.e Martin, Gibson) mostly had mahogany or rosewood bodies with the occasional maple body. Likewise, tops were usually spruce or occasionally cedar or mahogany. So, that's what most people expect to see, and (originally brazilian) rosewood has generally been the wood of choice on the more expensive models. This is pretty much ther same on classical guitars too. Of course there are plenty of other woods that work well and each has its own character. I would just wonder about the wider appeal of other woods if you ever wanted to or had to sell the guitar.
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Postby Ross A » 22 Mar 2009, 18:35

rocksteady wrote:I believe there are a whole lot more Rosewoods out there than Walnut. I may be wrong, but I don't hear of walnut as much. Sometimes the more popular speaks for itself. Sometimes when I am having a hard time deciding to purchase one item or the other, I ask which one sell the best.


Walnut is an excellent wood for acoustic guitars. If there was a straight choice between a Rosewood and a Walnut Avalon guitar, I would choose the Walnut. If it was a Walnut or Rosewood Martin guitar, I might choose the Rosewood.

Choosing a guitar on how easily you can sell it is probably not the right way to go about things. You should buy something you like the sound and feel of, if it's a good guitar why sell it?
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Postby rocksteady » 22 Mar 2009, 20:37

I agree with you. Picking a guitar wood on how easily it would sell is not the way to go. The best way is to try it to see if it sounds good to you. I just meant if someone did not have a way to try one and you narrow it down to two woods, I would personally ask " which one is the most popular?" I would think that the most popular one was popular for a reason. If someone says "that's our best selling style of guitar, chances are it is pretty good.
But yes, the best way is to try it. A person may like Walnut over Rosewood.
It is very subjective, and few people have the opportunity to try all of them. But if you can, do it.
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Postby Loki » 22 Mar 2009, 23:46

I am with Ross A on this one. If you want the 'Martin' sound, buy a Martin.

If you want a rosewood sound get a Rosewood body, they are very versatile and should do a fine job on anything you want.

Walnut, however, is, for me, a little bit different and a big bit special, but possibly less of an ensemble instrument.

This is bad news for me - none of my Avalons are Walnut :cry:
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Andy gigs with an L32C...

Postby Darach » 01 Apr 2009, 17:50

Andy gigs with an L32C and gives the full lowdown on his pickup system setup here if you want to go all out and get his exact setup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfsHyhbWAjk
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Postby MIKE 450 » 02 Apr 2009, 23:32

Nice post Darach, realy enjoyed Andys chat on his pickup system. I'd also love to know how much the M&M cost.
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Postby mutley2209 » 03 Apr 2009, 00:56

yeah saw that vid a while back its a good system he has, but any ideas on how the K&K mike hooks up? is it through the pickup?
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Postby Darach » 03 Apr 2009, 11:10

think it's the trinity system, has an onboard mix/preamp allowing you to blend both the mic and triple head pickup. which feeds one of his two jack outputs..

http://www.kksound.com/onboardtrinity.html

about $600 worth of pickups and then I believe he he uses a D-TAR solstice outboard mixer/pre before sending it to the PA.
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Postby mutley2209 » 03 Apr 2009, 21:08

cool cheers will have to look into that system :)
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Postby Ross A » 04 Apr 2009, 22:02

It is a good system, but there are issues with it. It is pretty hard to adjust the gain, and EQ on the preamp that comes with the Trinity system - you need a small screwdriver and a degree in sound technology to make the correct adjustments. K&K do a Pure XLR Pream that is much more user friendly.

I would just buy the Pure mini pickup and the XLR preamp (which is what my latest Avalon has fitted). The sound hole mic is nice, but in practice it's not much use.
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